Kent Hughes has a lesson to learn from Cayden Primeau

October 1, 2023

The Montreal Canadiens training camp roster – the one that could match the list Santa Claus is making and will check twice – took a significant cut on Saturday. A significant group was announced just before the preseason game against the Leafs, and others were added just after. 33 players remained in competition for roster spots – 30 if you don’t count the injured Carey Price, Chris Wideman and Christian Dvorak.

Cayden Primeau remains on the list, and not because he has earned a spot as the starter or back-up for the Habs. There is a real possibility that Primeau will make the opening night roster because he is waiver eligible, and GM Kent Hughes would prefer not to lose him to waivers.

We probably shouldn’t be in this situation.

Striking gold in the late rounds

One thing is certain – the Habs are not hesitant to give up on Primeau because of what he cost them. He was drafted by Montreal in the seventh round at number 199 overall in the 2017 entry draft. At that stage of the draft, teams are managing expectations.

At the time of his selection, Primeau was already committed to Northeastern University. The college hockey route is not the worst path for goaltenders who tend to need a longer period of developmental time. The decision was a good one for the kid, and in two seasons he had goals against averages that hovered around two, and save percentages above .930.

It looked like the Habs may have struck gold with that seventh round pick.

A shift in Montreal

On July 2, 2017, the Canadiens signed Carey Price to an eight year contract worth $84M that would kick in for the 2018-19 season. Veteran Antti Niemi was under contract for the last year of the previous Price contract and the first year of the new one. Both Niemi contracts were less than a million dollars, which is exactly the price they wanted to pay for their back-up.

In the meanwhile, Charlie Lindgren was developing in the Habs system, splitting both of those seasons between Montreal and Laval.

With Carey Price’s new contract, it became very clear that frugality in the back-up position would be prioritized. It also became clear that GM Marc Bergevin didn’t see Lindgren as a suitable plan to back-up Carey, as was evidenced by the ill-fated signing of Keith Kincaid. With Carey’s health in decline, Bergevin eventually had to add a netminder who could platoon and that’s how Jake Allen came to town.

An unforced error

On March 31, 2019, Bergevin signed Primeau to his entry level contract, a solid two years earlier than was necessary. He could have enjoyed another year or two of free developmental years before graduating him to Laval. But Bergevin saw an entry-level contract who could back-up Price, and probably eventually platoon with him before replacing him. It might have worked if Carey’s knee had held.

Now we find ourselves in the preseason for the 2023-24 season and Primeau has already split four seasons between Montreal and Laval. The list of folks who think the kid is ready for NHL play is small indeed, but he’s been around long enough that he’s waiver eligible.

The sticky part is that Primeau has shown flashes of what Bergevin imagined he could be, so the decision to waive him isn’t a simple one. It would be uncomfortable to watch him find his full potential in another NHL city.

Kent Hughes should pay attention

Under Bergevin, the Canadiens were fairly frugal about goalie spending at the draft. They did use a second rounder on Zach Fucale, but beyond that they were counting on late picks or free agents to fill the space behind Carey Price. HuGo inherited an injured Carey Price, an aging Jake Allen, and a lot of question marks after that. They sought to remedy an empty cupboard this past draft when they used third, fourth and fifth rounders on goalies.

Since the draft we have come to understand that the drafting crew were pretty high on their third round choice, Jacob Fowler. It wasn’t hard to see why from the behind the scenes footage the Canadiens released.

Fowler is committed to Boston College for the 2023-24 season, and once again the Habs have an opportunity for a long period of goaltending development in a good system before they sign Fowler. As much as they like him, he is not likely to be a real factor in Montreal for several years – they will need placeholders in net. Whether Montembeault, Primeau, or another guy acquired by trade or free agency, the Habs have some placeholding years before they should be calling upon Fowler.

The lesson for Hughes

Here is the message for Kent Hughes – don’t waste those free years of college hockey development time. If you like your guy, make sure you’re not at risk of losing him to waivers in a few years because you tried to rush him along to fit another window.

Fowler is a different kid than Primeau, with a different temperament. He may be ready for the bright lights of Montreal in less time than his predecessor needed. That’s a chance you might not want to take with a prospect you like.

Published by Lori Bennett

Hockey is my hobby. I love a respectful hockey chat or debate, but it stops being fun if we're jerks.

9 thoughts on “Kent Hughes has a lesson to learn from Cayden Primeau

  1. volohkin could be better than fowler- and miller looked real good too. and let’s not forget dobes. he’s been terrific albeit in a small size sample. fowler is not a shoe in by any means.

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  2. Nice article Lori. One reason to sign a potential NHL goalie after two years is to not let him go to the fourth year where he can be a free agent and not sign with Montreal. If this goalie has an award winning season he might stay one more year so he can decide where he plays and not be mandated.

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    1. Thanks for reading Allan. Sorry I missed your comment before now. I think the college prospect rules are an excellent reason to sign a goalie after three years. They signed Primeau after two because they knew they needed a cheap back up coming up because of Carey’s contract.

      Teams sometimes favour college picks because it actually allows for a longer time to cook before turning pro, teams like Montreal who already have a ton of young assets they’re assessing. Signing them too early kills that benefit. Of course, Bergevin wasn’t worried about that because they had drafted so few players by that stage of his tenure. They only turned to drafting and developing when they were forced to.

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  3. From what little I know about the position, Fowler and Miller are intriguing prospects. I also think Dobes might be able to have a modest career in pro hockey, whether it be at the AHL level or higher I have no idea. My feeling is the Habs have somewhat turned the page on Primeau with all of these other goalie picks they’ve made recently.

    Primeau has been solid at the AHL level but as you said, he hasn’t been able to impress at the NHL level..yet. It’s always hard for a fan of the team to bet against a young prospect and I wouldn’t bet against Primeau eventually being a roster player on an NHL team. Having said that, Primeau seems to have a mental block w/r to the NHL which makes it difficult to have a ton of faith in him. Maybe a move to another organization would be a weight off his shoulders (out of the shadow of Carey Price, Patrick Roy etc)?

    In my opinion it wouldn’t be the worse thing to lose him on waivers. Maybe it is worth taking a chance when the payoff is that he possibly marinates a little longer in Laval and contributes to a winning season there along with the other Hab hopefuls. One day many from Laval may eventually play together in the NHL.

    We’ll find out soon what Primeau’s fate will be. Habs claimed Sam off of waivers and he has continued to improve. I think it’s likely the Habs will offer up Primeau on waivers and pay back that favour to the hockey Gods.

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    1. And we see Lindgren plays for the Caps now. These rookie goalies are often 27. And they can last longer later too– look at Halak! Carey just was played too much as Bergevin and his bunch were pushing to stay contenders year after year. It wasn’t a bad idea to try to get Carey a Cup, in that sense, but trades/FAs that went 50/50, the team just never was quite good enough. So, a new regime and lets see how it plays out.

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      1. Thanks for reading Geof. Sorry I missed this comment until now. I have long said that Carey’s career was shortened because Bergevin and company rode him like a rented mule. He needed a platoon guy much earlier.

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  4. Hi Lori,
    The world of goalies is a black hole to so many, including myself, as an ex-college player then tens of years coaching. My only two insights are: number one, cat like reflexes foremost with both feet and hands, and secondly, a vigorous student of the net positioning. Pretty weak on my part but alas they are so different in capabilities and mentality. As we know, many teams are searching globally for a 6’5″ body that coverts to a flexible 6 ft x 5 ft sheet of plywood with goalie gear on… that leaves very few openings in net presence.. Cheers

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